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« on: March 02, 2009, 10:23:20 PM »

I have been frustrated by the legth of time in between updates on this case so I decided to review the JonBenet Ramsey case thinking maybe it would trigger a thought or idea that could help with the Caylee Anthony murder. I did find some similarities, strange and not so strange. 1. Both from affluent families. 2. Both were 1st reported kidnapped, then found murdered. 3. Both victims were found either in or very near thier home. 4. Both had duct tape on thier mouths, although it was determined by some professionals that JonBenet's duct tape had been applied post-mortum or after her death as there was no tearing of the skin around the mouth and no tongue depressions in the adhesive like would have been found if she had struggled against it. 5. JonBenet had a red heart line drawing in her left palm, while Caylee had a heart shaped sticker, presumably on the duct tape on her mouth.There is residue to suggest it was. 6. There are no fingerprints on the duct tape or randsom note of JonBenet and similarly, there are no fingerprints on caylee's duct tape either. 7. While several forensic speacialist agree that JonBenet had been chronically sexually abused by someone's finger or similar device, we will never have the answer for Caylee since her body had remained hidden so long and the soft tissue evidence was gone by the time she was found. 8. JonBenet's Mother, Patsy Ramsey, proclaimed her innocence all the way to the grave folks. One would think that at the deathbed, if she had been involved in her daughters murder, she would have finally confessed before dying of cancer. She didn't. Maybe it was to protect her husband John Ramsey. We will never know. I don't believe the world will ever know who JonBenet's killer was...I only hope that same will not be true of Caylee. There may be more points then this, these are just immediate, right of the top of my head.
Also I think it is very odd that Jesse, a trained previous police officer thought it was a good idea for him, Rico, and Amy to get together to corroberate thier stories, ooops, I mean to try to piece together what they knew. He should have know that they would be important witnesses and that they should have been interviewed seperately BEFORE they got together to discuss the case. Does anyone else think that it's odd that Amy only lists Rico in her cell phone under the name DR RICO...Does this mean he's her Dr Feel-Good? The guy she gets her pills from. That's what it usually means....Not to mention Rico's best friend Mr Lopez is also listed as DR Lopez in her phone. Hmmmm...very strange. I have found it very strange, from the beginning, that ALL of this girl's friends jumped up together and ALL turned on her. ALL OF THEM? What are they afraid of? What are THEY hiding? If it is true that Casey was working for an escort agency and searching online for escort agencies, these are the people who would also have been involved. Hello! They are also the one's she would have been using pills with. Tony is the pot man, Jesse, Amy, & Rico are the pills. I honestly believe there is soooo much more to this story then Casey just decided she didn't want to be a Mom anymore. Just because they are Police doesn't mean they are completely trustworthy. My local county Sheriff was arrested just days ago for money laundering, embezelment, & fraud. He had been our sheriff for 12-14 yrs and many are very surprised if not in denial. He was caught by FBI officials while in Las Vegas partying on the stolen money. Not to mention that is just the tip of the iceburg where local law enforcement is concerned. Ousted for "bush-bonds", sleeping with teenaged cadets, bribes, notifying crimminals that they are about to get busted. There are a lot of ways to misuse thier authority. Fire Marshall dismissed for recieving oral sex from 2 teenaged girls at his daughter's Grad party.
Lets also not forget about the hundreds if not thousands of people who were wrongly arrested, tried, convicted, and incarcerated for yrs sometimes decades then new DNA evidence totally clears them. Even DNA evidence can be faulty or at least the people testing it.  One lady wrongly sent false evidence against hundreds of people knowingly, without a care in the world.  Now I'm not saying I think Casey is totally innocent or possibly not innocent at all, but there is way more to this story and I am starting to smell a cover-up. When law enforcement starts trying people in the media, it either means they are trying to divert attention away from potential problems with thier case and /other suspects OR they fear they will not win thier case unless public opinion is so tampered and swayed a jury can only convict.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 09:16:01 AM »

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 I do have to say I agree with you on some points here. There are some similarities to both Jon Bennet and Caylee, but I personally do not feel enough or should I say any strong enough to compare them.  I personally DO NOT feel John or Patsy Ramsey had anything to do with their daughters death, I feel it was someone out of the family that killed Jon Bennet, possible someone that knew the family but not the family directly.  I also feel it is a crying shame that Patsy went to her grave knowing people believe she killed her daughter, that family suffered tremendously over being blamed along with the loss of their child.  Now for Caylee yes this family suffered, but in a different way.  I believe completely that Casey killed her daughter, Caylee Marie.  I do not believe that George or Cindy or even Lee had anything to do with her death, but I do believe they knew Casey did it and knowingly covered things up for her.   Afterall Casey is their daughter and they love her, and I never would want to be in a situation like that, because no matter what you do, you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.   My heart goes out to them for the pain they have gone through, more so for George than Cindy, and Lee im sorry he is nothing but a big joke imo, something about him doesn't sit well with me.    I do agree with you that there is more to this case than we (the public) know.  There are so many things that do not add up and I think someone may have helped Casey but I just don't think her friends were they ones, personally I think they are just worried about their own butts and the possible fact that they take drugs.   No matter how you look at this case there is one thing no one can deny, it's sad, pitiful, devasting and down right heart breaking.  I hope and pray that God lets there be justice here and the person/persons responsible are fully punished and are never allowed to hurt anyone ever again.   Again this is just MY OWN OPINIONS.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 10:57:29 AM »

Holly's Gma, I totally see alot of your points and agree on many...I honestly believe Casey killed Caylee BUT she did not act alone...I totally believe that it was a accident and THERES ALOT MORE TO THIS STORY. I also think the group you mentioned, Jesse, Amy and others are somewhat involved in SOMETHING. That didnt set too well with me either when Jesse wanted to meet and 'get the stories straight', but I thought that was just me...Im soooo glad that you see the same. I dont care who andy of them are or their backgrounds, Corruption is everywhere!!! I think police dept there is a good start and the whole group Casey last hung with...They all turned on her and decided to band together to make her look like the liar she is....BUT, they are not sooo innocent. This whole case is STRANGE and I dont think the whole truth will ever come out....Casey is defenitely guilty but there should be more going down than her......I think Jesse truely loved Caylee but I dont think he's as innocent of the circumstances surrounding the whole thing....He's not what Rev. Daddy thinks he is......JMO....
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 01:18:18 PM »

Very interesting points made, thanks for sharing your opinions...  I too have never believed the Ramseys to be involved in the killing of Jon Benet.  The psychics on Haunting Evidence laid out what they believed happened and it made real sense to me.

I too believe KC is guilty.  I believe she may have acted alone, but others knew about it and have helped cover it up.  What is sad to me is that last night on NG they said the judge can instruct that if it was an accident, you must acquit.  That scares the heck out of me....
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 04:58:40 PM »

Thanks everyone for you imput! I really wanted to hear some others opinions on these thoughts. I too feel Casey is guilty of harming/killing her daughter. As I had mentioned in my roll call, I have felt that Caylee was no longer alive since the day the news broke. The fact that she had already been missing over 30 days was too telling, IMHO. I do really wonder to what extent, the other people in Casey's life, were involved in Caylee's death. I have felt so drawn to this case as my precious grandaughter was born on Caylee's 2nd birthday, August 09, 07. Not to mention they favor each other quite a bit. I am glad to know others have had SOME of the same thoughts or ideas that I have.
Since JonBenet's killer was never caught, isn't it plauseable....in any degree, that the same person MIGHT have killed Caylee? We can't really rule it out......100%

Mauiforme;
 I would love to know more about the Psychic work done on the JonBenet case. Is there a link to a video? Also, I guess by going after Casey for Murder, they can only convict her of murder. An accident would mean a lesser charge thus the double jeopardy. Jury says "Not Guilty" to murder because they feel it was accidental she will go free and the DA will not be able to charge her with anything else concerning Caylee. That is almost mind-blowing!
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 07:58:57 PM »

It was on tv show Haunting Evidence.  I dont know if it is on utube...

I have been beat up by many for my belief it is not the parents of Jon Benet, but it is what I have felt all along and the show above felt the same.  I could be wrong...

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 03:14:44 PM »

I'm following up on Maui's comment.  I've quoted her below.

KC is not an affluent person.  She is flat broke.  She didn't own a car, didn't live on her own, and lied about working at Universal.  She didn't even own her own PC or laptop.
As a parent, she was unable to support herself or her child. 

KC wasn't held accountable for taking care of her own daughter.  I am still waiting to see a copy of KC's Individual Tax returns along with a copy of her W-2 statements.

CA & GA must have ignored the lies for so many years.  I beleive that CA paid for every item that Caylee had.   

I believe that KC operates on a maturity level of a 12 year old.  I do not think that she is capable of feeling compassion for anyone or anything except herself.


I too believe KC is guilty.  I believe she may have acted alone, but others knew about it and have helped cover it up.  What is sad to me is that last night on NG they said the judge can instruct that if it was an accident, you must acquit.  That scares the heck out of me....
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 09:47:30 PM »

Karla;

I do have to agree with most of what you said. Casey is irresponsible, no doubt. However, she WAS from an affluent family...her Grandparents are considered to be affluent.  They have a nice home, drive nice cars, can afford to buy & insure thier grown daughter a car, ect....not dead broke like Haighley's folks. She, Caylee had been living in her Gandparents home since birth, thereby they, Cindy & George along with Casey & Lee were her family.
I know Casey never paid for anything for Caylee.  My own daughter has not been able to buy for her own child yet, but she's still a good mom. She doesn't got to work, she goes to school.

If a child resides in your home, you are in part responsible for that child. If you feel that the guardian is irresponsible or may harm the child, it is your duty to report them to DCFS- the Department of Children & Family Services. Cindy may be hanging out wide open because she was sooo vocal about Casey being "un-fit" yet never made that call.  Why? If she was so interested in taking Caylee away from Casey, why didn't she call? Casey might run away....too bad, cops would have drug her back right away, with a LIVE Caylee.

It really does take a villiage to raide a child.  I can list probably 50 people who all watch out for or in some way help take care of her. Not because my daughter & Holly's Father won't but because we all love spending time with her ourselves. Of course not all of them have total access to her or keep her over-night or even change her diaper. Family Friends, Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, 2 full sets of Grandparents, 1 Great-Grandfather, Great-Aunts, Great-Uncles, Mother & Father. While Holly's parents may not be together or live together, there is NO shortage of helping hands around. I just wonder why that wasn't true of Caylee?  My daughter's BFFs have sat for her several times, whether they have kids of thier own or not.  Why didn't this occur with Caylee? Where were all of these other people? It almost seems isolationistic or to be done on purpose. In my experience this only occurs in families who are trying to keep big secrets.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2009, 08:30:33 PM »

haunting evidence is on youtube, that episode and the natalee halloway episdoe. Ive spoken personally with both john and carla and they are both very good mediums and psychics.
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 10:39:12 PM »

Thanks Travis, I did feel good about their feelings when I watched those shows....
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